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Pacific Railroad Company of California and
of its successor, the Central Pacific
Railroad Company, from the year 1867 to the
year 1873, were you not?

A. Yes sir.

Q. 89 During that time did you have any
transactions, as such secretary, with the
Contract and Finance Company?

A. I did.

Q. 90 With whom, on behalf of the Contract and
Finance Company, were those transactions made?

A. With its president and secretary.

Q. 91 State their names.

A. Charles Crocker as president during a
portion of the time. S. A. Hopkins as pres=
=ident during another and later portion of
the time; and W. E. Brown as secretary,
and John Miller afterwards as secretary.

Q. 92 Was Mark Hopkins president of that
company.

A. Not that ever I knew.

Q. 93 S. A. Hopkins, of whom you speak: is
he and officer of the Central Pacific Rail=
=road Company?

A. He is not.

Q. 94 Is he a relative of Mark Hopkins?

A. I think he is. He is said to be.

Q. 95 What relative?

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