Vol. 2-Interview-Maloney

DM inter. M/M Falatko -31- 8/11/72 Tape 11

DM That's a lot of work for 2 lousy cents

MF And do you know what we'd take them back to his barn and come back and go and fill our buckets with apples and carry the apples, like crazy

DM DId you have a way to put up apples or did you eat them all before they got spoiled

MF Well you know what children are, one would come and grab and the other would come and grab inside of a week there'd be no apples

DM You'd have no preservation problem because the apples would be gone. I know that you mentioned earlier about churning butter did you have a butter churner a long time ago

CF Yes, sure we had one when we had the first cow, Blackie, we had one

MF Well that's how you make your butter

DM Would you just put milk in a butter churner and that's it

CF No

MF Not milk, cream, very slight salt and you keep on bouncin' it up and down till it gets into butter

DM When you took it out what did you do put it in tubs

MF It forms itself you know, in the lumps and you take it out in a pan and have cold water and wash that milky stuff off till it's clear and then put it in a dish and put it in a cold place

DM And then it would stay, it wouldn't spoil

MF No

DM And you could use it for anything, I can imagine how homemade bread and homemade butter would taste

MF And that was buttermilk because there was little pieces of butter in there and was that every tasty

DM But it's so fattening that's the thing, that's the thing I wouldn't like, it has so many calories in it

DM inter. M/M Falatko -32- 8/11/72 Tape 11

CF And you can get it here from the milkman too, but it's not as good as homemade

DM Oh well, no. The meat man sells butter, did you say

CF No the milkman

MF Now the milkman don't even come around here

DM Nobody comes around

MF No, nobody comes around

CF One time there was 2 or 3 storemen, there was 2 or 3 butchers, 3 butchers

MF And today, nuthing, you have to make a trip to Freeland and if you don't go you're out of luck

DM Yes I know we took Annie

MF Only the baker comes, Monday and Friday

DM The Jewel J E W E L truck

MF No I don't think so

DM I think he stopped at Annie Malones one day

CF Who

DM The Jewel Tea Company, like a little super market on wheels

CF Oh he comes everyday

MF Oh that's the tea man

CF That's what he means

DM But he sells all kinds of groceries doesn't he

MF No, just tea and coffee, maybe he does I don't go out and buy

DM Does Lefty take you to Freeland

MF Piker

DM Oh Piker does

CF That's just what I was goin' to say, she don't even go shoppin' and I'm mad

MF Mary does the shoppin' because when I walk around too much I can't make it, it takes my breath away

DM Well how come you're mad because Mary does the shopping

DM inter. M/M Falatko -33- 8/11/72 Tape 11

CF Mary don't treat me as good as her, oh that's right, Mary treats me better that her that's why I'm glad she don't go

DM Now let's not start a big argument, I don't want to do that to you. Did you ever do it the way someone told me, I forget who it was, but the said they churned butter in a jar, just roll it along the floor, put cream in the jar

MF You would have a 2 qt. jar, you know, [handwritten word above qt. jar,cannot decipher]

CF You have about 2 cups like this, cream, and put it in a jar [handwritten word written above jar, cannot decipher]

MF Yeh and keep rollin' till it gets into a lump

CF You can see it form

MF Yeh it gets nice form into butter

DM You don't have to have a plunger that

MF Oh no

MF Was you in Ellis'

DM I've been there, sure. The last couple days I've been there talking about other things but not food. I know that Ralph is a pretty good canner, he cans stuff, he puts stuff up, I'll have to ask him about that because I want to learn about it

MF He put up a lot of stringbeans

DM Yes we got some of them, they are good, I'm going to have some of them tonight

CF He always does a lot of cannin'

DM Let's see, I almost forgot this is about it but the saur kraut barrels, did you have a big one

CF We had about a 50 gallon

DM 50 gallon barrel, wow

CF We always put it clear to the top

DM With saur kraut, did you ever put apples in it

MF Oh yes, apples

DM Like those sour apples

CF Sour apples and heads of cabbage, couple heads of cabbage, bog cabbage

DM inter. M/M Falatko -34- 8/11/72 Tape 11

MF And some Rusty Coat apples that's what they used

DM Rusty Coats is that what they called them

MF See if you put the plain apple it rots quicker, the skin is more hardy than the other apple

DM You could recognize them when you picked them

MF Sure

DM Was that a special kind of apple or, that's the name of the apple, Rusty Coat

CF They're brown like rust, all rust, they drop

MF Yeh, they're brown, they're delicious when they're in cabbage

DM What did you do, run the cabbage on a cabbage slicer then fill up the drum on those little cabbage slicers, and didn't you put it up against the wall, something solid keep rubbing the cabbage right down and chopping it up

CF Just go with your hands and out it

MF You have to have something solid, then you put one layer and then you put salt and spices.

DM Now what kind of spices

MF Mixed spices, pickel spices, and then you keep adding more cabbage on top

DM And it would make it's own juice, right

CF And what gives you taste in your saur kraut - dill

DM Right, my wife grows that

CF The branch

DM The whole branch you just threw it in there, you didn't grind it up

MF No just the whole branch, bend it and put it in

CF That's what gives it taste

DM Did you ever have dill bread

CF No

DM They call it dilly bread, when we come up here in the Fall I'll have my wife make some for you, you'll like it I think if you like bread you'll like this I think it's very tasty, very spicy. And is it true that you used to get your feet cleaned and jump up and down on it like you jump up and down on grapes

DM inter. M/M Falatko -35- 8/11/72 Tape 11

MF Oh yeh, he would have this washed and cleaned your toe nails and scrubbed them off good with a brush and soap and tell them what happened to a party

DM The party

CF The party uptown

MF She's dead and he's dead

CF The daughters were all nurses and the sons professors, they're all dead the young ones and the old people they were particular about everything, you know but the mother and daddy they weren't particular they

MF They were old-fashioned

CF So the old man couldn't go in the barrel because he was too fat and clumsy so the old lady didn't want him to go in because he had clumsy feet and she said she don't want him to go in so Clifford come on a couple times a couple years finally it was [blank space] I went in the barrel and on top of the barrel that hoop, that ring was sharp and I cut my toe, bleedin' like a pig, Holy Christ Almighty i'ts a good thing nobody was around and heard she takes me and wraps me with a rag and whatever the hell else she put on I don't know I was almost [blank space] full of blood but I had to finish it and nobody did know

DM Oh no

CF Oh yes

DM Extra iron in the saur kraut, didn't those pickling spices and stuff feel like iodine in that cut

CF And the kids didn't know

MF That wasn't all on the cabbage that's when he was finished already that it happened

DM I thought it was in the cabbage

[?]F Oh no

CF It was on the top but the blood went down in anyhow